TLDR;
The Majority Report discusses a segment from Breaking Points where Sager makes claims about undocumented immigrants receiving free education and healthcare in the US, asserting that no other country in the world offers such benefits. The host refutes this claim, presenting evidence that numerous countries, including France, England, Germany, Mexico, and many EU nations, provide free education to all children residing within their borders, regardless of immigration status. The discussion questions the motivations behind Sager's statements, especially in light of the broader context of immigration policies and human rights concerns.
- Sager from Breaking Points falsely claims the US is unique in providing free education to children of undocumented immigrants.
- The host counters with evidence of numerous countries offering similar benefits.
- The discussion questions the reasoning behind prioritizing this issue over more pressing immigration concerns.
Introduction [0:00]
The host introduces a discussion about a segment from Breaking Points, noting a reluctance to cover shows that align with their views. The focus is on a statement made by Sager regarding undocumented immigrants and the perception of rising fascism. The host expresses shock at the justifications being made, particularly in light of reports about potential mass deportations.
Sager's Argument [2:35]
Sager argues against allowing undocumented immigrants to enroll their children in public schools at taxpayer expense. He claims that no other country in the world functions this way and expresses frustration with the financial burden he believes undocumented immigrants place on society. He insists on a system that prevents this from happening, stating it as a firm position.
Counter-Arguments and Facts [4:15]
The host challenges Sager's assertion that no other country provides free education to children of undocumented immigrants. By doing a quick search, the host reveals that France, England, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Netherlands, Spain, and most EU countries offer free education to all children residing within their borders, regardless of their immigration status. Additionally, parts of Canada, Thailand, Jordan, and Mexico also provide free public education to children regardless of documentation.
Deeper Analysis of Sager's Stance [6:56]
The host questions why Sager focuses on the issue of free education for undocumented children while seemingly ignoring other critical aspects of immigration, such as family separations and human rights abuses. The host replays Sager's adamant claims about the uniqueness of the US policy, highlighting the disconnect between his certainty and the readily available facts. The host suggests Sager's strong belief might be a "pathology," given its detachment from reality.
Economic Impact and Historical Context [8:44]
The host points out that undocumented immigrants are a net positive in terms of tax dollars paid versus services used. The host suggests that if there are concerns about the financial impact, a straightforward path to citizenship would address the issue. The host references past instances where similar sentiments were expressed, including a situation where Glenn Greenwald had to address Sager's comments about a deported hairdresser. The host also mentions a 1980 debate between HW Bush and Ronald Reagan, where Bush argued against having uneducated children in communities.
Concluding Thoughts [10:17]
The host expresses disbelief at Sager's certainty despite readily available information to the contrary. The host contrasts Sager's concern over undocumented children receiving free education with the lack of outrage over more severe human rights issues. The host argues that even from an anti-immigrant perspective, educating these children is beneficial for both their future and the host country's long-term interests.