Brief Summary
Gavin Newsom discusses a wide range of topics, from political tribalism and California's economy to gun control, pandemic policies, and national security. He shares personal anecdotes about growing up with dyslexia, his parents, and his early career. Newsom also addresses controversial issues such as immigration, homelessness, and gender policy, offering insights into his approach to leadership and governance.
- Political Differences & Open Dialogue
- California's Economy & Policy
- Personal Background & Values
Introduction & Welcoming Gavin Newsom
Shawn Ryan welcomes Gavin Newsom to the show, expressing appreciation for Newsom's willingness to engage in a conversation despite their differing viewpoints. Newsom emphasizes the importance of open dialogue and collaboration across political divides, highlighting the need to move beyond tribalism and zero-sum thinking. He acknowledges the unexpected nature of his appearance on the show, given his background as a California politician.
Political Differences & Tribalism
The conversation addresses the increasing tribalism in American politics and the importance of setting an example of how to engage in respectful dialogue. Ryan presents Newsom with a California-compliant Sig Sauer P365 Macro as a gift, which Newsom appreciates, stating he is not anti-gun but supports common-sense gun safety measures. They discuss the role of everyday citizens carrying guns in reducing or increasing crime, with Newsom citing data suggesting that states with stricter gun safety laws have lower gun death rates.
California’s Economy & Gun Control Debate
Newsom defends California's gun control policies, citing data that shows a significant reduction in gun death rates since the implementation of common-sense gun safety laws in the 1990s. He acknowledges the Second Amendment rights of individuals but emphasizes the need for background checks and restrictions on large-capacity magazines and weapons of war. The discussion touches on the challenges of addressing mental health and substance abuse in the context of gun ownership, with Ryan expressing concerns about potential infringements on the rights of veterans with PTSD.
Pandemic Policies & Reflections
Newsom addresses a question from Joe Rogan regarding accountability for COVID-19 vaccine mandates for children and potential remorse for decisions influenced by pharmaceutical companies. Newsom refutes the notion that his decisions were influenced by Big Pharma, highlighting his progressive laws against them. He announces an objective review of California's pandemic response, including interviews with experts and opponents, to assess what was done right and wrong. Newsom acknowledges mistakes made during the pandemic, such as shutting down beaches and open areas early on, and emphasizes the importance of vaccines in saving lives.
Political Aspirations & Democratic Leadership
Newsom denies gearing up for a 2028 presidential run, stating his focus is on the 2024 election and the success of the Democratic Party. He expresses concern about the party's obsession with finding a "perfect" candidate and emphasizes the need for hard work at the local level. Newsom lists potential Democratic leaders who could step up, including Pete Buttigieg, governors like Josh Shapiro and Wes Moore, and figures in the House and Senate.
Trump, Musk & Epstein Speculations
The conversation shifts to current events, including the Epstein files and the situation in Iran. Newsom expresses skepticism about the Epstein case, noting Elon Musk's tweet and Trump's defensive reaction when questioned about it. Regarding Iran, Newsom highlights the successful execution of a mission to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities but emphasizes the need for diplomacy.
Iran, Gaza & Middle East Politics
Newsom discusses the aftermath of the conflict in Gaza, expressing concern for the children affected and advocating for a negotiated peace. He acknowledges his deep reverence for the state of Israel but emphasizes the need for restraint and compassion. Newsom applauds President Trump's Abraham Accords and hopes for continued progress toward peace in the Middle East.
Growing Up in San Francisco & Dyslexia
Newsom shares details about his personal life, including growing up in San Francisco and struggling with severe dyslexia. He explains why he doesn't read speeches or use a teleprompter, highlighting the challenges and gifts associated with his learning disability. Newsom discusses his mother's hard work and sacrifices, as well as his father's absence and eventual return to his life.
Family, Upbringing & Early Career
Newsom reflects on his parents' influence, describing his mother's work ethic and his father's idealism and sense of adventure. He recounts his early jobs, including paper routes and janitorial work, and his struggles in school due to dyslexia. Newsom expresses gratitude for his parents' support and acknowledges the sacrifices they made for him.
Immigration & Border Security
Newsom discusses California's approach to immigration and border security, highlighting the state's unique demographics and economic contributions of immigrants. He defends his decision to deploy National Guard troops to the border, emphasizing the need for border security while also advocating for a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who have been in the country for many years and are contributing to the economy. Newsom criticizes the Trump administration's policies on immigration, citing instances of cruelty and the separation of families.
AI, Innovation & National Security
Newsom emphasizes the importance of attracting and retaining talent in the tech space, particularly in areas like AI and quantum computing, to maintain national security and economic competitiveness. He expresses concern about China's dominance in AI research and advocates for immigration policies that encourage skilled workers from around the world to come to the United States. Newsom highlights California's role as a hub of innovation and entrepreneurialism, citing the success of companies like Nvidia and Tesla.
Trade, BYD & U.S. Economic Policy
Newsom discusses the importance of economic industrial policy and expresses concern about China's dominance in the electric vehicle (EV) market. He criticizes General Motors for ceding ground to China in the EV space and emphasizes the need for the United States to get serious about competing in the technologies of the future. Newsom advocates for worker-centered industrial policy and immigration reform to support economic growth and national security.
Meeting Xi Jinping & Global Diplomacy
Newsom recounts his meeting with Xi Jinping in China, highlighting the importance of maintaining relationships and open communication with other countries, even those with whom the U.S. has disagreements. He shares details about the curated experience and substantive conversations on topics like fentanyl and human rights. Newsom emphasizes the need for diplomacy and engagement to address global challenges and avoid a Cold War mentality.
Homelessness, Housing & Mental Health
Newsom addresses the issue of homelessness in California, acknowledging the state's high homeless population and housing costs. He discusses efforts to increase affordable housing, reform environmental regulations, and provide support and services to homeless individuals. Newsom highlights the importance of addressing mental health and substance abuse in the context of homelessness, citing the success of programs like Care Court.
Ibogaine, Cannabis & Psychedelics Policy
Newsom expresses openness to exploring the potential benefits of psychedelics for treating mental health and addiction, particularly in the veteran community. He emphasizes the need for medically supervised use and a cautious approach to regulation, drawing lessons from the state's experience with cannabis legalization. Newsom acknowledges the anecdotal evidence and scientific research supporting the use of psychedelics for various conditions.
Entrepreneurship & College Life
Newsom reflects on his college experience and his early career as an entrepreneur. He discusses the challenges and gifts associated with dyslexia, highlighting the importance of creativity and resilience in business. Newsom shares anecdotes about his first business, PlumpJack, and his approach to leadership, including the "failure award" he created to encourage innovation and risk-taking.
Political Career & Gender Policy Debate
Newsom discusses his entry into politics, starting with his appointment to the parking and traffic commission in San Francisco. He reflects on the importance of business experience and entrepreneurialism in public service. Newsom addresses the issue of gender policy, particularly in the context of sports, acknowledging the concerns about fairness and the need for respectful dialogue.
Trans Rights & State Policy Challenges
Newsom discusses the challenges of balancing trans rights with concerns about fairness in sports, acknowledging the complexities and nuances of the issue. He expresses concern about the weaponization of the issue and the potential for it to undermine broader LGBTQ rights. Newsom emphasizes the importance of anti-discrimination laws and the need to treat all individuals with respect and dignity.
Trump’s Legacy & Political Reflection
Newsom reflects on Trump's presidency, criticizing his policies on immigration, trade, and emergency preparedness. He expresses concern about the divisiveness and recklessness of Trump's actions, as well as the potential for abuse of power. Newsom contrasts Trump's approach with his own, emphasizing the importance of collaboration, respect, and a focus on the common good.
Wildfires, Crime & Federal Responsibility
Newsom discusses the challenges of managing wildfires in California, highlighting the state's investments in forest management and firefighting resources. He criticizes Trump for his comments about raking the forest and for cutting federal funding for wildfire prevention. Newsom defends California's approach to crime, citing data that shows a decline in homicide rates and investments in law enforcement.
Innovation, Energy & Infrastructure
Newsom discusses California's efforts to promote innovation, clean energy, and infrastructure development. He highlights the state's investments in batteries, renewable energy, and high-speed rail, emphasizing the importance of these investments for economic growth and environmental sustainability. Newsom expresses concern about the potential for China to dominate these industries and advocates for policies that support American competitiveness.
Foreign Investment & National Security
Newsom addresses concerns about foreign investment, particularly from China, in U.S. land and infrastructure. He emphasizes the need for vigilance and scrutiny but cautions against virtue signaling and unsubstantiated rumors. Newsom highlights the importance of balancing economic opportunities with national security concerns.
Personal Insights & Final Reflections
Newsom shares personal insights about his values, his family, and his approach to leadership. He emphasizes the importance of hard work, responsibility, and a commitment to serving others. Newsom reflects on the challenges of balancing political ideals with practical considerations and the need for empathy and understanding in a divided society.
Closing Thoughts
Shawn Ryan expresses appreciation for Gavin Newsom's willingness to engage in an honest and open conversation. He acknowledges that his opinions about Newsom have changed as a result of the interview. Newsom expresses gratitude for the opportunity to share his perspective and emphasizes the importance of finding common ground and working together to address the challenges facing the country.
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