[Digimon Podcast] LiT Episode 29 - Where's Wallace?

Brief Summary

In this episode, May and Jay review "Digimon Adventure: Our War Game!" and "Summer Wars," comparing the original Japanese version with the English dub. They discuss the plot, character interpretations, and significant changes made in the dub, including altered storylines and added jokes. They also explore the similarities and differences between "Our War Game!" and "Summer Wars," noting shared themes and plot elements.

• The hosts discuss the differences between the original Japanese version of "Our War Game!" and the English dub, focusing on plot changes, character interpretations, and added jokes.
• They analyze the presentation and context of the movie, highlighting issues with the English dub's assumption that viewers have prior knowledge of the "Digimon Adventure" series.
• The hosts compare "Our War Game!" with "Summer Wars," noting similarities in plot and themes while emphasizing key differences in character development and digital world representation.

Intro

May and Jay introduce episode 29 of Lost in Translationmon, where they watched "Our War Game" (Bokura no War Game) and "Summer Wars." They clarify the title of "Our War Game" and mention the anime "Bokurano" as a recommendation. There's no Digi news this week due to Digimon Tri's conclusion.

Listener Feedback and Concerns

The hosts address anonymous listener concerns about the American dub of Digimon Zero Two, with worries about its quality. May shares her positive childhood memories of Zero Two, while Jay expresses apprehension. They also discuss a Tumblr message about the American dub of the Digimon movie, noting the fast-paced dialogue and forced techno Babel. Edgar emails to clarify that "old man speech" is a grammatical aspect in Japanese, not a way of speaking.

Tai and Sora's Relationship

The hosts discuss the interpretation of Tai and Sora's relationship in the Digimon movie. They note that the English version seems more romantic than the original, possibly influenced by Jeff Nimoy's support for their relationship. They analyze specific scenes, such as the birthday gift argument and Sora's visit to Tai's house, as indicators of implied romance.

Digimon the Movie Dub Issues

The hosts discuss the issues with the American dub of Digimon the Movie. They mention that the children's dialogue felt off, the music was different, and there was constant talking. They note that the English version tried to force more words into a small amount of time, which made the movie less good.

Old Man Speech and Australian Accents

The hosts discuss the concept of "old man speech" in Japanese and how it's a grammatical thing that implies age. They also talk about Kansai Ben, which is similar to the hick accent in the US. They mention a vulgar but artistic video called "the ciggy butt brain" that represents what Australians sound like.

Digimon Zero Two and Try

The hosts discuss their feelings about Digimon Zero Two and Try. They mention that Edgar thinks they should stop hyping Tamers and instead hope for Zero Two. They also talk about how they came away from Try not overly enthused with it, but they were kind of sold on it in retrospect.

Contact Information and Movie Introduction

The hosts provide contact information for listeners to send messages via email, Twitter, Tumblr, and Facebook. They also mention a discussion thread on With the Will and encourage reviews on iTunes or Stitcher. They then transition into discussing "Our War Game," noting the loud Bolero music at the beginning of the original version.

Initial Impressions and Contextual Issues

The hosts discuss their initial impressions of "Our War Game," noting that Hikari (Kari) seems different from her usual portrayal in the show. They address the issue of the movie's placement in the timeline, particularly for viewers who haven't seen "Digimon Adventure." The movie assumes viewers have knowledge of previous events, making it incomprehensible to newcomers.

Key Problems with the English Version

The hosts discuss one of the key problems with the English version of the movie, which is that it has no context for anything that's happened. They mention that it's assuming that because people like Digimon, they'll go and see the movie even if they haven't seen the show. They also talk about how the movie doesn't explain what jogress is, and they try to guess what it's called in the English version.

Plot Spoilers and Character Quirks

The hosts discuss plot spoilers, noting Hikari's annoying behavior and Izzy's excessive talking. They criticize Izzy's dialogue for being nonsensical and ruining the plot, particularly his comments about the virus and the egg. They also point out the English version's implication that the Digimon is looking for someone, linking it to Willis from "Hurricane Touchdown," which changes the plot.

Music and Dub Changes

The hosts note the change in music from butterfly to Bare Naked Ladies in the dub. They discuss how Joe is studying and Mimi has lots of letters by her door. They also point out that the dub writers changed the nameplate on Mimi's door to "To Mimi Lovejo Tweet Tweet Japanese Boy," which they find perplexing.

Ty's Mom and the Egg Hatches

The hosts discuss how Ty's mom can't cook in the dub, which they find to be a really weird joke. They also mention that the best joke in the whole movie is when Izzy comes to the door and says the egg hatched, and Tai Chi looks at the egg in his hand. They note that this joke is kept in both versions.

Wallace and the Talking Digimon

The hosts discuss how Izzy is talking about his net friend in L.A., who is Wallace in the original but Willis in the dub. They also note that karamon can talk in the English version, which they find unnecessary because he's meant to be a virus and not smart.

Reunion and Glitches

The hosts discuss the reunion with the Digimon and how Tai is reacted with agamon. They also note that tail one starts walking to the wall for a few minutes, which they find weird. They think it's like this isometric like game-ish area that they're in.

Phone Calls and Cut Footage

The hosts discuss Tai Chi's attempts to call people, noting that Joe is at an exam and Yamato and takaru are at their grandma's house. They also mention that there might be a bit of footage that's cut, but they're not quite sure. They note that in the English version, they try to sense again, even though they've already said they're in Japan.

Hikari's Party and Computer Cat

The hosts discuss Hikari's party and how she's volunteered to be cut in half by a magician in the English version. They also note that in the English version, there's a computer cat that says "thank you missing meow.com," which they find to be the best part.

Internet Battle and Willis

The hosts discuss the Digimon going to the internet and having to use Izzy's password, which is prodigious. They also note that an Australian boy emails them and says, you know, how are you losing? This is just replaced by Willis, and he says, I'm sorry for doing that. This is my fault.

Ferris Wheel and Birthday Girl

The hosts discuss a ferris wheel speeding up and a little girl seeming really happy by the fact that she's probably gonna die. They also note that a lot of Ty's moms watches the ferris wheel's really going today, like no concern at all. They then go back to kari's party and the birthday girl's face is so done whenever Hikari is on the phone.

Phone Problems and Sora's Visit

The hosts discuss the phone problems and how Tai Chi tries to contact everyone again. They also note that Sarah tries to visit taichi, which they think they put here more to imply that she was just visiting him because he called or something.

Infamon's Call and News Report

The hosts discuss infamon calling Tai on the phone and actually talking to him. They also note that the news announcer says now some breaking news phone systems throughout Tokyo are experiencing difficulties. They mention that in the dub, have gone dead worldwide. If your telephone is dead, please call your phone company.

Sora's Visit and Mimi's Postcard

The hosts discuss the Sora visiting Thai clip and how it's moved here to imply that you check the phone messages and came only here. They also note that they found out the Mimi's in Hawaii and she seems a lot more vain as always in the inspiration.

Contacting Matt and TK

The hosts discuss how they've used the reserve messages able to contact them. They also note that Matt says it's happened after apparently he said again. They mention that infamon once again sends a message saying that he's looking for someone, which he isn't, but they have to reference Willis.

Finding a Computer and Izzy's Comments

The hosts discuss how it took takeru and Yamato try and find a computer. They also note that this is where the bit where um is he says oh I wonder what the Digimon would be like if he was never attacked by the virus it was like he wasn't attacked by anything he is inside oh.

Internet Access and Evolution

The hosts discuss Panama government got on the internet and there's not much talking they're just saying oh look it's Panama and gavamon and you know there's tentomone oh come on Phoenix version. They also note that infamon evolves and they try to evolve before they should have said yeah last time we tried to evolve that didn't work out too well so let's evolved before we get to him.

Tense Moments and Bathroom Break

The hosts discuss a really tense moment and taija's just looking at the screen and then if he goes to the bathroom to wait because he's had so much oolong tea. They also note that their internet kind of goes funny and they think their computer breaks.

Missile Launch and Character Appearances

The hosts discuss Dearborn one copying himself and launching one missile in the Ink's version he launches two missiles one in Japan and one in Colorado. They also note that there were two characters that show up in the background when the kids around the world are watching the D fight.

Emails and Mount Fuji

The hosts discuss Izzy getting lots of emails and he's reading them and he gets one from his mum and it's telling him to be home by six. They also note that it's Mount Fuji the only mountain in Japan.

Miyako and Wallgreymon

The hosts discuss Miyako and how emails are making their connection show wallgreymon and metal gurumon get beaten as they always do. They also note that toshro once again is on the computer and aware of unaware of his surroundings as we've seen in tribe of standard in the earlier episodes of Digimon Adventure.

Digital Transformation and Omnimon

The hosts discuss Tai Chi going into the computer and so does Yamato. They also note that the emails give power to them to make them form a megamon who clears up all the copies leaving the original and omnimon says his name.

Email Forwarding and Missile Landing

The hosts discuss kosher affords all the emails to Dearborn which causes him to freeze. They also note that with Tai Chi's mum about the cake the missile lands in the water and managed to not hurt anyone.

Mass Driver and Sora's Email

The hosts discuss the concept of the mass driver and how Sora gets typed his email maybe that's why she's too preoccupied with the email that she just got she wants her boyfriend. They also note that Izzy says in the original version we didn't make it because like it still lands like he's worried that what happens if if we didn't make it because it was only to the very second.

Ending Song and Windows 2000

The hosts discuss the great song that starts playing and how it's number two Haru. They also note that the cute photos from the movie and the children are watching around the world next show Miyako they show video and they show a cute picture of Tai Chi's mum and the bird cake.

Willis and Movie Review

The hosts discuss Willis running in a field with with terium on and kokomon. They also ask what did you think of our war game as someone who was new to Digimon it was okay if someone was really new to dude like I was when I watched the original pretty cool God that would be completely terrible.

Combining Movies and Differences

The hosts discuss whether it would have been better to combine 's movie with the first one no it ruined it it's actively terrible. They also note that there were a lot of differences and there's the classics they add in lots of jokes Kari was the narrator randomly I'd forgotten because of course she was she was in the prequel as well but it's really weird.

Music and Plot Differences

The hosts discuss the music and how they actually really like the English music. They also note that the plot's different that the reason they're fighting this thing the reason it's there at all its entire motivation is just completely different and it's all focused on this Willis kid.

Nameplate and Virus

The hosts discuss the nameplate or Mimi's door I'm still perfect. They also note that what is up with them not thinking it's even a digimon or it's pop virus part Digimon or was corrupted by a virus none of that made any sense.

Removed Content and Digimon Introductions

The hosts discuss how they removed 20 minutes from the Japanese version well that's a heaven thing yep they removed the whole plot. They also note that the Digimon that was were introduced in this movie were there is a moth on my screen hello little friend.

Summer Wars Introduction

The hosts discuss Summer Wars and how they were kind of told going into this for some Wars was like really similar and I have three pages of notes about some Wars I have six points we will not be going into this actually really in depth because this isn't a digimon clone movie.

Summer Wars Plot Overview

The hosts provide a short overview of the Summer Wars plot. Basically there's a kitty's name is Kenji he's really good at math he's dumb though but he he's he's you know he's a Japanese teenager so he's not this gets a lot of blood noses he used to love blood knows you know the guy but gets two in the movie he's a Japanese nerd kid you know what I mean it's anime.

Family and Infrastructure Destruction

The hosts discuss how the whole family finds out that he wasn't legit and they were pretty mad about it and there's one of the [ __ ] relatives who's a policeman arrests him because he's in love with his second cousin that's really weird he's like no one falls in love with my second cousin except me. They also note that the Japan's infrastructure is like destroyed essentially.

Grandma's Death and AI Programming

The hosts discuss how the grandma passes away after having a talk with him about really being there for them the more important talk with my biscuit was she almost dabs him that was before that's before he left so she dies and then he comes back yeah and he he explains that he was the one who programmed I know this they don't know before she tries to stab him yet before he left he explained oh yeah I always want to programmed that AI yeah.

Military Involvement and Supercomputer

The hosts discuss how like millions of accounts have been stolen at this point by the AI and it's gotten huge and it's kicking it's it's beating down King cosma and they come up with a plan and because this family is Rich and very connected they bring in like a military. They also note that Kazu Kazuma the boy who I know that's not how you pronounce it but I need to emphasize there's a difference is the kid who runs King cosma.

Lag and Ice Theft

The hosts discuss how they start to get lag they start to get lag again and they turn in error messages and they turn around and they open the door and they blossom with heat they look around and the ice is not melted it's gone like even the buckets that were holding it are just gone and then you cut and the weird cousin who was having the strange incest feelings about the main like love interest girl had stolen the ice and moved into another room.

Satellite and Password

The hosts discuss how there is a a countdown timer began in which was it a spaceship or a satellite um a satellite was basically being controlled to get thrown down at one of um some nuclear reactor in Japan because that's what that's what the Bad Evil AI was gonna do. They also note that he cracks it he's about to put in the password to change it and it pops up a new one and it happens like four times.

Satellite Impact and Dog Account

The hosts discuss how they go through the Grandma's will I don't think it's entirely necessary the nerd I'm trying to figure out what happens next oh um they get they think they've lost them in uh looks on and she plays hanafuda which is a good game because it likes games yeah especially challenges it too. They also note that tries to throw uh the satellite at the estate where the where the kids are rather than the nuclear thing just to kill them specifically at a Vengeance.

Company Responsibility and Movie Rating

The hosts discuss what's really important about this movement what's really wrong with this movie and I really like it actually it's really it's it's interesting I like the family and they're interactional that I like the weird digital stuff but I I was just sitting there thinking to myself who runs this company that runs ours it has to be somebody there has to be a team of experts who runs this can't they just reset the servers or isolate this thing is no one responsible. They also ask what would you rate our war game out of ten.

Japanese vs English Version

The hosts discuss the Japanese version and how it was fine I still think the characters were a little bit weird and a bit different than they did a little bit like not in a not in like a but not but we've seen we've seen them being older and try and I think that's developed better I don't think it's all that interesting. They also note that in English English suffers from multiple reasons including content no even the worst thing's fine yeah I wouldn't I don't think the worst thing takes a hit I think it's weird as a change but what does take a hit is its context next right after the prequel.

Summer Wars Rating and Movie Length

The hosts discuss what would you rate Summer Wars I really like some Wars honestly really I like I give it an aid as well here's the thing they're different eights yeah right the first one again I gave was a digimon eight would I go out and watch it again no I mean I've watched it twice recently. They also note that a good movie is about an hour and a half after then I start to my mind starts to wander.

Upcoming Episodes and Patrons

The hosts announce upcoming episodes of parasite uh enter flame drama or the one who inherits courage and the digi team comparetto or digital gate open. They also thank our two patrons Stephen padamon who you can follow at Stephen padamon on Twitter and Wu Ching long who has a twitch stream which I will link in the description which is Twitch TV uh Slash Wu Ching long.

New Patreon and Ending Theme

The hosts announce that during editing this I found that we have a new patreon on patreon and it's metal mamimon they haven't given a Twitter or blog or project they're working on to plug yet but uh yeah so thank you. They also note that the ending theme as I said earlier well ending an opening theme to our podcast for this episode is a mashup between one week and sucker here number two Haru and it's made by first agent on Tumblr.