Brief Summary
This YouTube video features a panel discussion on why dating coaches are considered frauds, particularly within the black community. The panel explores various reasons, including the lack of verifiable expertise, absence of on-camera proof, and the questionable motives behind inviting more competition into the dating pool. They also discuss the absence of testimonials from women, the lack of endorsements from professionals, and the potential liabilities involved in coaching.
- Lack of Verifiable Expertise
- Absence of On-Camera Proof
- Questionable Motives
Intro: Dating Frauds and Their Impact
The host introduces the topic of dating frauds, asserting that all dating coaches are frauds without exception. He emphasizes that this isn't about personal attacks but about the problematic information being circulated. He points out that these so-called coaches don't practice what they preach and that it's crucial to steer clear of such problematic figures. The host stresses the importance of black men being able to identify frauds to ensure the proper functioning of their community. He argues that self-esteem issues should be addressed internally rather than through external validation like chasing women.
Panelists' Initial Thoughts on Dating Frauds
The panelists share their initial thoughts on the topic. Asian highlights that one's circle reflects their ideologies, and he avoids associating with liars and thieves. Aegon notes that black men of all statuses are susceptible to falling into the trap of worshiping women, and they exhibit similar patterns before doing so. Lawrence Guy describes dating coaches as parasites who prey on young men, convincing them of false realities and taking their money.
Asserted Expertise: The Lack of Verifiable Training
The panel discusses the lack of verifiable training or background required to become a dating coach. They argue that traditional dating is rare in today's marketplace, and these coaches are essentially sexual access coaches operating under pseudonyms. Aegon adds that traditional dating has declined since women gained voting rights and financial independence. Asian states that women sought voting rights to dominate men, a trend prevalent in the black community for centuries. Lawrence emphasizes that dating hasn't truly existed for over 30 years, making the title of "dating coach" unverifiable and parasitic. The host emphasizes that the absence of a male figure in single-mother households contributes to young men's vulnerability to these frauds. He argues that these coaches turn men into "snacks" for women and that job and skills training are more beneficial than access to women.
Zero On-Camera Proof of Asserted Expertise
The panel discusses the absence of on-camera proof of the dating coaches' claimed expertise. Asian argues that black America is easily swayed by style over substance, which explains the lack of a true community. Lawrence points out that after three years of no receipts, followers should realize the coaches are frauds, making both parties responsible. Aegon believes that the lack of proof of concept is a significant problem in black culture, requiring these coaches to be shamed.
Why Invite More Competition? The Tainted Product
The panel questions why dating coaches would invite more people into the dating pool if they were truly successful. Lawrence uses the analogy of diets: if they all worked, there wouldn't be so many. He argues that a man who can "take all the women" wouldn't share that information. Asian suggests that the product being offered is "tainted," and these coaches want others to share in their misery. Aegon states that any coach who doesn't aim to make you independent is suspect, and the continued need for more books and methods without results indicates a scam.
No Testimonials on Camera from Women
The panel discusses the absence of on-camera testimonials from women about the effectiveness of the dating coaches' products. Aegon suggests that these coaches can't even pay a woman to play the role of a satisfied customer. Asian argues that the women these coaches target are too masculine to be swayed by typical tactics. Lawrence points out that many of these coaches are already in committed relationships, undermining their credibility.
No Endorsements from Professionals
The panel notes the lack of endorsements from medical, psychological, or law enforcement professionals for dating coaches. Lawrence finds it fascinating that these coaches have persisted despite the #MeToo movement. Asian suggests that the #MeToo movement is silent because they want to use these coaches to feed more men "like sheep to the slaughter." Aegon adds that dating coaches soften their message over time to attract a female audience and protect themselves, but they will inevitably face scrutiny.
Matchmaking vs. Coaching: A Matter of Liability
The panel discusses the lack of liability insurance among dating coaches and the potential consequences if their advice leads to harmful outcomes. Lawrence points out that there are matchmaking institutes with certification processes, unlike dating coaching. Asian highlights the societal bias where men face harsher legal and social repercussions for similar actions as women. Lawrence differentiates matchmakers, who aim for long-term relationships, from dating coaches, who promote casual encounters. Aegon suggests that dating coaches are cutting into the lane of matchmakers and certified psychologists, leading to potential conflicts.
Selling an Unproven Subjective Experience
The panel briefly touches on the impossibility of selling an unproven, subjective experience as a specific experience to another person. The host uses the analogy of Tom Brady's quarterback lessons: taking them wouldn't make someone Tom Brady.
Zero Liability and the "Misapplication" Claim
The panel discusses the lack of accountability among dating coaches when their advice fails. They mention the common claim of "misapplication" and the absence of responsibility-taking. Asian compares this to the "all action, no consequences" mentality seen in feminism.
Why Not Target Higher-Class Women?
The panel questions why dating coaches don't use their supposed skills to attract higher-class women and "get off the market." Asian suggests that the host is implying that black families don't matter. Aegon notes that wealthy black women exist, but these coaches can't attract them because their faces are too well-known as dating coaches. Lawrence points out that these coaches are promoting a lifestyle they no longer live, and the end result of relationships is the same regardless of class.
Secret Information in the Wide Open: Undercover Spies
The panel discusses why dating coaches share their "secret information" publicly, allowing women to see it. Aegon suggests that they are "undercover spies" and that women are aware of their tactics. Lawrence adds that these coaches are teaching men to speak a language of submission that women already understand. He also draws a parallel to pet owners wanting to see their pets being obedient.
Final Thoughts: The Need for Skills and Self-Improvement
The panel concludes by emphasizing the need to shame those who defend dating coaches and to recognize them as "pieces of [ __ ]." They stress that there is no gray area and that choosing a side is essential. Lawrence compares dating coaches to drug dealers, preying on their own people for personal gain. Aegon highlights that these coaches are trying to live off hope, making the situation worse. The host urges viewers to get their skills together and avoid solving self-esteem issues with access to "bottom barrel women."
Analyzing a Clip: Questioning a Dating Coach's Defenses
The host plays a clip from another stream where he challenged a dating coach on his claims. The coach defended certain figures in the dating coach space, which the host found contradictory. The host argues that if all these people are born off of fraud, and if everybody is part of because once you become a dating coach the very first thing dating coaches do is start big upping Allen Roger Curry and AMS and all these other [ __ ]. He emphasizes that none of these [ __ ] have shown proof infield GoPro camera proof of what the [ __ ] they doing.
Final Words and Farewell
The panelists share their final thoughts. Lawrence advises viewers to invest in themselves rather than paying for dating coaches. Aegon encourages viewers to call out those who sell "magic potions" and to prioritize self-improvement. The host thanks the panelists and viewers for their participation and reiterates the importance of surviving and thriving as men by avoiding the "crazy ass [ __ ]" of dating coaches.
